{"id":140,"date":"2013-05-18T00:10:49","date_gmt":"2013-05-18T00:10:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mayohomeopathy.ie\/blog\/?p=140"},"modified":"2017-08-16T07:53:50","modified_gmt":"2017-08-16T06:53:50","slug":"suicidality-abortion-child-psychiatry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.mayohomeopathy.ie\/index.php\/suicidality-abortion-child-psychiatry\/","title":{"rendered":"Suicidality and a child psychiatrist&#8217;s own pathology"},"content":{"rendered":"<h6 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Suicidality and Homeopathy<\/span><\/strong><\/h6>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">During the discussions and debates on Ireland&#8217;s Heads of Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, 2013,\u00a0campaigners wished to introduce abortion to treat a\u00a0woman suffering\u00a0from &#8220;suicidality&#8221;. This\u00a0would be\u00a0a vicarious treatment, far removed from Dr Hahnemann&#8217;s ideal of cure; quick, gentle and permanent. Hahnemann should be regarded as a valid voice in the treatment of suicidal dispositions,\u00a0having found a wonderful <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vithoulkas.com\/learning-tools\/materia-medica-kent\/aurum-metallicum\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">substance for suicidality<\/span><\/a> in <em>Aurum met,<\/em> and being the first in the history of medicine to treat humanely the mentally ill. Just imagine a homeopath recommending such a destructive course of &#8220;treatment&#8221;, unproven, to a patient. They&#8217;d be vilified.<\/span><\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Paediatric Psychiatrist Promotes Abortion<\/span><\/strong><\/h6>\n<div style=\"width: 134px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/cc\/SweeneyTodd.jpg\/170px-SweeneyTodd.jpg\" alt=\"Suicidality abortion antibiotics\" width=\"124\" height=\"175\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Sweeney Todd, the musical<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">But amid all the illogic, caricatures, posturing of journalists and the ideology of their allies, Labour, in the discussions and debates on the matter,\u00a0there is nothing to match the pathological irony of\u00a0one paediatric psychiatrist campaigning for abortion on the casual grounds of choice.\u00a0One has to ask: at what point on the path from conception to, say,\u00a0age 18 or 20, when a child becomes an adult, does the doctor stop seeing the unborn human\u00a0being as a problem to annihilate, to being\u00a0a patient worth treating..? All of which brings to mind <span style=\"color: #008000;\"><a style=\"color: #008000;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sweeney_Todd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sweeney Todd<\/a><\/span>, the fictional barber of Fleet Street, who killed his own clients.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Imagine a lady in distress with a child attending a paediatric psychiatrist. She&#8217;s pregnant. The doctor offers to refer her for an abortion. Years later the woman is back with\u00a0her child looking for advice. The child says to the doctor, &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re the doctor who was willing to put an end to me&#8230;&#8221;<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">The\u00a0allopathic paediatrician\u00a0is not the only\u00a0one with\u00a0incongruent thinking. The homeopath Jeremy Sherr, when teaching the remedy <em>Thuja occidentalis<\/em>, extrapolated from a mix of symptoms from the proving of <em>Thuja<\/em>\u00a0along with\u00a0a collection of\u00a0eclectic ideas to suggest the soul doesn&#8217;t enter the body until the end of the first trimester therefore, he concluded, abortion is allowed until three months.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Aside from the speculative nature of his argument, there are a number of problems with this argument. <\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">First, since it would be the soul that gives a human identity, ensoulment at three months means the soul would be entering a non-human body, which is incoherent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Second, Jeremy is extrapolating from symptoms. Symptoms are pathological, so he is conf-using pathology (of a tree)\u00a0to explain a healthy human state.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Third, Jeremy commits the fallacy of induction whereby he generalises from a particular to a general. Despite the nature of Jeremy&#8217;s claim there was not an ethics module on the Dynamis course.<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Further reading<br \/>\n<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #333333;\">On Hahnemann and suicidality: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mayohomeopathy.ie\/index.php\/care-dying-homeopathic-euthanasia\/\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Caring not killing \u2013 homeopathic euthanasia<\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\nOn Hahnemann the first to treat mentally ill humanely: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mayohomeopathy.ie\/index.php\/revisionist-bias-history-medicine\/\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Revising the Revisionist Histories of Medicine<\/span><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mayohomeopathy.ie\/index.php\/psychiatry-homeopathy-care-management\/\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Psychiatry and Homeopathy<\/span><\/a><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Read my letter in the<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/debate\/letters\/the-abortion-debate-1.1382137?page=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Irish Times<\/span><\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #008000;\"><a style=\"color: #008000;\" href=\"https:\/\/stephenblendell.wordpress.com\/2015\/11\/03\/unborn-more-than-a-mass-of-cells\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Unborn more than a \u201cmass of\u00a0cells\u201d<br \/>\n<\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Hahnemann&#8217;s article of 1819 shows his charitableness to suicides:<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/p4mh1I-ed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">http:\/\/wp.me\/p4mh1I-ed<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Picture credit: <span style=\"color: #008000;\"><a style=\"color: #008000;\" href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:SweeneyTodd.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Suicidality and Homeopathy During the discussions and debates on Ireland&#8217;s Heads of Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, 2013,\u00a0campaigners wished [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[15,21,3,22,14],"tags":[239,117,926,2,18,193,107,111,925,13,24,347,238],"class_list":["post-140","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ethics","category-medicine","category-medicines","category-philosophy-of-medicine","category-science","tag-abortion","tag-antibiotics","tag-aurum-met","tag-drugs","tag-evidence","tag-germ-theory-of-disease","tag-irony","tag-jeremy-sherr","tag-pedriatric-psychiatry","tag-psychiatry","tag-religion-2","tag-suicidality","tag-suicide"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.4 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Suicidality and Homeopathy During the discussions and debates on Ireland&#039;s Heads of Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, 2013, campaigners wished to introduce abortion to treat a woman suffering from &quot;suicidality&quot;. 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